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胡炜临时代办就新冠肺炎疫情接受《每日镜报》专访
2020/05/11

  2020年5月11日科伦坡复工复产、报业刊印第一天,斯里兰卡发行量最大的英文报纸《每日镜报》在头版头条刊登了对胡炜临时代办的专访,全面回应了各方关于新冠肺炎疫情的有关问题。专访全文如下(英文附后):

  问题一:阁下是否接受新冠病毒起源于中国的说法,还是您认为它起源于其他地方? 因为根据报道,这一新型病毒在武汉出现了第一例人类感染病例,之后迅速传播。

  答:包括世界卫生组织、《柳叶刀》、《自然》等卫生领域权威已经多次回应过这个问题,新冠病毒的来源是一个科学问题,应该由科学家研究揭秘,而不是任由政客、媒体臆测。最早报告病例的地方不一定就是病毒产生的地方,同时我们也注意到,近期美国、欧洲很多国家的零号病人都大大提前了,甚至还发现了去年10月、11月的确诊病例,越来越多人质疑病毒有可能来自美国,欧洲或是其他地方。无论如何,我想我们还是需要更多一点耐心,让科学家们最终去解答这个问题。

  问题二:有各种指责认为中国政府在疫情初期没有认真采取行动并隐瞒了相关信息,影响了世界对疫情的应对。还有人认为中国政府隐瞒大量信息的行为是全球陷入当前疫情的原因。您如何回应这些指责? 中方是否有掩盖真相?

  答:一些西方政客和媒体在本国疫情失控之际开始集中质疑中国,这个时机让人不免怀疑他们在试图隐瞒和转移焦点。国际社会特别是卫生领域专家普遍称赞中方防控的速度和力度世所罕见,有效阻止了疫情蔓延,中方信息分享也高度透明,这为国际社会抗疫争取了宝贵时间、提供了宝贵经验。相信大家经过客观对比会发现,即使时至今日,一些国家的防控措施也还不如中国在疫情爆发之初的反应。这些国家有中国为它们赢得的长达好几周的宝贵时间窗口,但却浪费了,而中国当时没有这么幸运。我们当时面临的是一种全新的病毒,认识、了解它需要有一个过程。

  问题三:中国是如何真正意识到这次疫情及其严重性的? 是通过李文亮医生吗? 据称他在聊天群里拉响病毒警报后被拘留了。

  答:如前面所说,中国对新冠病毒的认识和了解是有一个过程的。在这个过程中,医生和科学家们发挥了关键作用。不过需要说明的是,李文亮医生是位眼科大夫,他最初在社交媒体发布的猜测是关于SARS病毒而非新冠病毒。当然,疫情刚开始时谁也不知道这是新冠病毒。正因如此,任何负责任的政府都会对有关言论采取谨慎的态度。斯里兰卡政府也是这么做的。

  问题四:越来越多的人质疑新冠病毒起源于武汉一处秘密实验室。您对此有何回应? 该病毒是否起源于动物?

  答:我也听到很多关于新冠病毒来自美军生物实验室的传闻。但正如我之前所说,到目前为止,科学界的权威结论仍然认为,新冠病毒是来自自然界。具有讽刺意味的是,总有些人宁愿相信谎言或谣言,也不愿意相信事实和科学。

  问题五:许多国家对中国对外介绍的疫情防控感到不满,并呼吁国际社会对疫情起源以及中方早期应对进行调查。您对此有何看法?

  答:的确有一些政客提了这样的意见。但我严重怀疑这种声音能否代表国际社会主流意见,这些政客能否真正代表他们自己国家的人民。相信大家都注意到,这样做的政客往往是国家防控失利、政府面临人民问责的。他们关心的也许不是战胜病毒,而是赢得选票吧。希望他们吸取教训,把精力放在防控工作上,否则将来恐怕无法逃避其国内的调查。

  中国发现疫情之后第一时间通报了世卫组织并邀请其派专家组赴华协助研究工作,我们始终对国际合作持开放态度,但我们反对在没有任何证据的情况下,把中国放在被告席上,事先推定有罪,然后通过所谓国际调查来寻找“证据”。

  问题六:一些国家也在指责中国通过驻外外交机构传播虚假信息,认为一些中国外交官利用社交媒体发布虚假信息,声称是其他国家将新冠病毒带到中国。您对此有什么看法?

  答:也许疫情中最大的虚假信息就是对于所有中国官方提供的信息,不管是多么不可辩驳的事实,一律贴上“虚假信息”的标签。这种“逢中必反”的政治病毒同样致命。一些西方国家的领导人在没有任何证据的情况下,甚至其本国的医学界、科学界都明确反对的情况下,无端向中国甩锅,他们更配得上散布“虚假信息”这个罪名。

  问题七:为什么有些国家把中国描绘成“邪恶”国家? 是因为他们可能担心中国经济一直以来保持着强劲发展,还是他们担心中国通过帮助发展中国家基础建设和经济发展而迅速在世界上赢得声望?你认为其他世界强国会嫉妒中国的成就吗?

  答:很多有理性的人都在思考这个问题。你的追问其实已经给出了答案。我对你的第三个问题不做置评,也许你该直接问问他们。不过,还可以补充一点,虽然布鲁诺被愚昧的人群烧死已经400多年了,但仍有一些人本能地反对并试图消灭任何与自己不同的观点,哪怕这已经被事实和科学论证。这种狭隘是人类的悲哀。

  问题八:新冠疫情爆发后,中国是否已彻底关闭了野生动物市场?

  答:目前,野生动物市场交易和运输已被全面禁止,非法的野生动物市场也被取缔。同时,需要说明的是,食用野生动物在中国远没有外界想象的那么普遍。我身边那么多亲戚、朋友,就没有一个人有这种习惯。此外,斯里兰卡有很多中餐馆,中国也有很多斯里兰卡游客,只要实地走访一下就会知道这种印象并不正确。

  问题九:斯里兰卡目前已发现超过800例新冠肺炎确诊病例。你如何评价斯里兰卡当前抗疫行动?

  答:本土疫情爆发后,斯里兰卡政府迅速出台了一系列果断有力措施,医护人员、军警以及全国人民积极响应配合,严格的防控措施取得了相应的效果。到目前为止,斯里兰卡较好地控制了疫情蔓延,防控工作总体得力。国际社会对此广泛认可。当然,病毒传染性很强,大家千万不可掉以轻心,还是要继续做好防护。

 

  问题十:数周来,中国为斯里兰卡政府抗击疫情捐赠了大批宝贵的医疗物资。中方还将为斯里兰卡提供多少帮助?

  答:中斯友好经历风雨考验,是患难与共的真朋友。我们不会忘记斯里兰卡领导人、社会团体和普通民众在中国疫情最困难时期给予的坚定支持。斯本土疫情爆发以来,中方各界都感同身受、十分牵挂。中国各级政府、企业、社会团体、个人纷纷为斯里兰卡捐赠了大量急需的防疫物资。斯公共卫生局长贾辛哈博士表示斯疫情防控主要依赖中方物资,我们对此感到很欣慰,也很受鼓舞。最近,中国政府正在筹集包括三万套防护服、三万份检测试剂在内的又一批防疫物资,相信会对斯方下阶段防控工作很有帮助。

  问题十一:当前,似乎受到疫情冲击的整个世界都在指责中国和中国人民。您想对外传达什么信息?

  答:个别怀有偏见的西方人士绝不代表全世界,我相信他们也不能代表斯里兰卡。无论他们如何叫嚣,时间迟早会告诉大家真相,就如伊拉克没有大规模杀伤性武器一样。当前,疫情还在全球蔓延,在那些污名化中国的国家中尤其严重,我奉劝他们本着对本国民众和全世界人民负责的态度,专心做好防控工作,而不是热衷于制造和传播政治病毒。人类命运息息相关,中国愿继续与世界各国人民团结一致,联手抗击疫情。

  1/ Ambassador do you accept that COVID-19 has its origins in China or do you feel it originated elsewhere? Because this new COVID-19 was reported to have its first case in humans in Wuhan afterwhich it spread tremendously?

  A number of leading health authorities including the WHO, the Lancet and the Nature etc. have repeatedly responded to relevant question with a strong opinion that the origin of COVID-19 is a matter of science, which could only be concluded by scientists with professional research but not by any politician or media through assumption or even fabrication. A place with earliest reported case is not necessarily where the virus was generated. Furthermore, we have noticed that recent studies found much earlier Patient Zero in the United States and Europe, some even as early as last October and November. It drives more and more people to question the virus might possibly come from the United States or Europe or somewhere else. Anyhow, as China always insists, we need more patience to let international scientists finally answer this question.

  2/There are allegations that the government of China did not act on this outbreak seriously, during its initial stages, and also suppressed the information which prevented the world from preparing for this outbreak. It is alleged that so much of information was hid by your government which is why the world is facing this pandemic today. How do you respond to these allegations? Has there been a cover up by China?

  These allegations were mainly raised by some west politicians and media. It’s intriguing to see them turned up their alleging volume against China only after the pandemic get worse and wore or even out of control in their own countries. The timing made us wonder their intention might just to divert attention and cover up their own inaction. In fact, universally the international community and the medical professionals in particular praised the speed and intensity of China’s prevention and control measures at the outbreak, which effectively prevented the spread of virus and saved tens of millions innocent people in China and the world. Besides, the information sharing was also highly transparent. China’s efforts provided valuable time and experience for the international community to fight the pandemic. The time line of China’s fight explains all.

  Ironically, even after a couple of months and thousands of deaths, some of those countries who keep accusing China didn’t take it seriously, still couldn’t adopt strict prevention and control measures as China, some times not even close. It’s very regrettable to see some wasted the valuable time window of weeks that we have won for them with huge sacrifice. China was not so lucky. What we were faced with at that time is a completely unknown virus, which obviously required a process to learn about it.

  3/How did China actually realize about this pandemic and its seriousness? Was it through Dr. Li Wenliang who it is alleged, was detained after he raised the alarm bells on a chat group about the virus?

  As I mentioned, our knowledge and understanding about the new coronavirus takes a process. In this process, doctors and scientists played a key role. But it should also be noted that, although well known as a whistle blower, Dr. Li Wenliang was an oculist and his conjecture on social media at the very beginning was about SARS instead of COVID-19. As we knew nothing about this new virus at that time, it’s also a common practice for local authority to take a cautious attitude towards epidemic-related comments on social media. Sri Lankan government keeps similar high vigilant as well, which is very necessary in my opinion.

  4/ There are increasing allegations that this virus originated in a secret lab in Wuhan. How do you respond to this? And do we still know if this started from an animal?

  I also heard a lot of rumors about the virus coming from a U.S. military biological laboratory. However, as I just said, until now the authoritative scientific community still holds that the virus came from nature, with more and more evidence supporting their conclusion. It’s a pity that there are always people who prefer to believe lies or rumors rather than facts and science.

  5/ Many countries say they are unhappy with China's version of the story about COVID-19 and have called for an international investigation into the origins of the pandemic as well as China's early response to the outbreak. What can you say about this?

  Indeed, some politicians have made such comments. But I seriously doubt whether this voice can represent the mainstream opinions of the international community, and whether these politicians can represent the people of their own countries. I believe everyone has noticed that these politicians are basically those who could not prevent and control the pandemic, and their administrations are going to be held accountable for that by their people. Perhaps their concern is not to defeat the VIRUS, but to win VOTES. I hope they will learn the lesson and focus on fighting COVID-19, otherwise they may not be able to escape domestic investigation by their people in the future.

  After first suspicious case was reported, China notified the WHO and invited its expert team (composing US professionals too) to visit many places in China including Wuhan to assist in the research work. We have always been open to international cooperation. What we strongly oppose is to put China on the dock first without any evidence and only on basis of guilty presumption, and then try to find any “evidence” serving their purpose through so-called “international and independent” investigation.

  6/ Some countries are also accusing China now of spreading disinformation through their oversea diplomatic missions. Some diplomatic officials, it is alleged are using social media to promote disinformation alleging that other countries had smuggled the coroavirus into China. What can you say about this?

  Perhaps the biggest "disinformation" in the epidemic is all the information officially provided by China, no matter with how irrefutable facts, it is always labeled as "disinformation" by some biased politicians and media. This political virus of "ABC (Anything but China) Mindset" is equally deadly. Some senior officials of Western countries keep “lying, cheating and stealing”, and always blame China without any evidence but fabricated accusations, even when their own medical and scientific professionals clearly opposed it. They deserve better the word “spreading disinformation".

  7/ Why is China being portrayed as 'evil' by some countries? Is it because they maybe despising the strong economy China has maintained in this era and China is fast gaining popularity in the world by assisting developing nations in infrastructure projects and developments? Do you think other powerful countries are jealous at China's achievement?

  Anyone who is reasonable may also wonder the same first question like you, and I believe you have just gave them the answer by asking the second one. As to your third question, I’ve no comment but suggest you could ask them directly. Interestingly though, I would like to add that 400 years after Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake by stupidity, there are still some people who instinctively oppose and try to eliminate any opinions that are different from their own, even if this has been scientifically justified with bunch of facts. Such narrow-mindedness is indeed a sadness for all human beings.

  8/ Following the spread of this new coronavirus, has China completely banned its wildlife markets?

  At the moment, China’s legislature has banned illegal hunting, trading, and transporting of wildlife. Illegal wildlife trading places have also been cracked down. Meanwhile, it should be noted that consumption of wildlife in China is far less common than some foreigners imagine. I can’t come up with even one single relative or friend of mine who has this taste. Plus, there are many Chinese restaurants in Sri Lanka, and also many Sri Lankan visit or live in China. Just enter any restaurant or local fresh market, and you will realize this impression is not true.

  9/Sri Lanka, presently has detected over 800 cases of the COVID-19. In your view, how do you think Sri Lanka is fighting the virus?

  After the outbreak of COVID-19 in Sri Lanka, the Sri Lankan government quickly took a series of decisive and concrete measures, while the medical workers, tri-forces, police and all the people of the country actively respond and cooperate, which have achieved positive effects accordingly. I should say so far Sri Lanka has controlled the spread of the epidemic very well, and the prevention and control work is generally effective and impressive, which is widely recognized by the international community. I would also like to bring into your attention that the virus is very contagious, and no one should treat it lightly and expose to the virus without protection. This is what we learned during our fight against the pandemic.

  10/ In the past few weeks, China has made valuable donation to the Sri Lankan government by donating medical equipment to help the country fight the virus. How more do you think you can help the Sri Lankan authorities in their fight?

  China and Sri Lanka are true friends tested by wind and rain, helping each other at need. We will never forget the solidarity and support extended by Sri Lankan political and religious leaders, all sectors of society and grassroot people during China’s most difficult period. When the pandemic outbreak in Sri Lanka, all sectors of society in China felt and concerned just like happening to us. The Chinese government, enterprises and individuals have donated big quantities of urgently needed medical supplies to Sri Lanka, which is much more valuable under surging global demand. We’re honored and encouraged to learn from Dr. Anil Jasinghe that Sri Lanka now mainly count on China’s medical supplies in this combat. This kind of help is still coming continuously. Recently, Chinese central government is raising another batch of medical supplies, including 30,000 sets of PPE coverall and 30,000 test kits etc. I believe it will be very helpful for the next stage of prevention and control work in Sri Lanka.

  11/ Right now the whole COVID-19 world has stigmatized China and its people. What message would you like to give the world right now.

  Some prejudiced westerners never represent the whole world, and I believe they cannot represent Sri Lanka either. No matter how they shout, time will tell everyone the truth. The drama of forcefully convincing Iraq with mass destruction weapons was still alive in our memories. At present, the epidemic is still spreading around the world, especially in those countries that heavily stigmatize China. I strongly advise them to concentrate on prevention and control work in a responsible manner to their own people and people all over the world, rather than being desperate on manipulating and spreading political virus. COVID-19 proves again that the destiny of mankind is closely related, and China is willing to continue to unite with the people of all countries in the world and work together to fight the epidemic. United we stand, divided we fall.



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